There is this beautiful girl I know named xxxxxxxxxxxxxx. I have known her for a couple years but, we aren't friends. I have been in
with her since I first saw her but, she doesn't Have a clue. I'm not very funny and shy around girls I like. I want to get closer to her but I'm not sure how because I'm not the most popular guy in school. I'm tall somewhat built,athletic(soccer/track and field)brown eyed and haired and i have been told i have very beautiful eyes by like every age of girl and i have somewhat longer eyelashes(my moms side). Please help me. Also I am a deep baritone.

Hi Caplan & welcome.

I moved your post here where it fits better with the others.

If you are tall, athletic, with beautiful eyes and lashes, chances are the girls will find you attractive. If you are pleasant & shy, then doubly so!

It's not possible to say whether this particular girl will be interested, because no-one can force their emotions, but she might be. The only way to find out is to talk to her. Just be friendly.

Do you share any classes at school?
Could you ask her for advice with homework or a project?
Does she belong to any after-school clubs that you could join?

If you can find a shared interest, then you are half way there.

Just find a reason to say hello and ask her something.
If she's reading a book, ask her if it's good.
If she mentions something, respond to it.

Just be friendly & interested and see what happens.

Good luck!

Yes I share four out of nine classes with her and sit next to her in like everyone. I have tried looking for something to ask her about but I have an iq of 170(possibly higher. I believe she will be doing track(not sure) but otherwise she doesnt belong to after school clubs that I know of. The problem isnt that I can't talk it is that I can't think of things to talk about. If I find a couple good ones i can go on for awhile. She also likes funny guys but I'm not that funny.

Maybe if you "acccidentally" kick her and then apologize or ask her if you can borrow a pen for class, that could get a conversation started.

Oh yes ~ a sure fire way of getting a girl to fall for you ~ well, to fall, anyway!

This is all about teenage boys and confidence.
They seem either to have too much, or too little, or too little masquerading as too much ~ especially when it comes to girls.

From what you say, I'm guessing that you are at least reasonably good looking and you are intelligent. Both can be very attractive to the right girl.

You sit by her (I've removed her name for safety & privacy reasons) for half your classes & you really like her, yet you don't speak to her ~ so she has no idea how you feel. Surely you must be able to talk to her about something, even if it's only the subject of the lesson. What subjects are you studying?

You say you are 'shy around girls I like'.
Many boys are ~ many girls feel exactly the same way, too.

You say: 'I'm not very funny.'
Well, yes, girls do seem to like boys who make them laugh ~ that is true ~ but they also like boys they trust & with whom they can relax. That is much more important ~ especially the trust, I think. Obviously they have to like them, too, and no-one can force their feelings. That has to be remembered, too.

Do you know these lyrics?
'Don't laugh at my jokes too much, people will say we're in love.'
The thing is, if a girl really likes a boy, then all his jokes will amuse her, but she has to like him. If she dislikes him, his jokes will just irritate her. So don't try to be funny.

Have a look at this thread:
'Getting her to laugh.'
http://www.wineintro.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=238106&fpart=1

Pleasant girls like pleasant boys; boys who are kind, caring and friendly. If a girl likes you, she won't care whether you are 'the most popular guy in school'; it would be irrelevant.

You are into sports and she may be doing track ~ but you are 'not sure'. Why don't you find out? Why don't you ask her? Are you planning to do track this year? See if you can word it so that you get more than a yes / no answer. Tell her that you do track & field. Say you might see her there. Ask her if she's into sports? Does she like soccer? What sports and games does she like?

'She doesnt belong to after school clubs that I know of.'
Does she belong to any that you don't know of?
Does she belong to any out-of-school clubs or societies?
She may do first aid or ballroom dancing, or anything. Just ask her. If you like her, you will be interested ~ show that you are interested, but try not to sound over-eager.

'The problem isnt that I can't talk it is that I can't think of things to talk about.'
Why not?
Can you talk to your male friends?
Can you talk to your family?
Can you talk to members of your soccer team?

With a high IQ, you must be able to find out about all sorts of things, so you should be able to find lots of things to talk about.

You say: 'but I have an iq of 170(possibly higher.'
Different scales measure IQ in different ways, but on any scale this sounds fairly high. I'm just wondering about the 'but'??? ~ Why do you say that?
I know lots of people with a similar score, most are successful and happy.

Keep smiling, be friendly, stop worrying, but be yourself.
And just talk to her; if she is sitting next to you for all these classes and being ignored by you, she might be wondering if she is doing something wrong!

Thanks for your help with this. I did try to talk to her today but after i asked her a question and we kinda talked about it I couldn't think about anything else. Any tips?

I read that article and it helps me out a good deal. Thank you.

I have started to talk to her more and I think we are staring to get along better.It is increasing everyday so. Thank you for your advice. If anyone has anymore it would still be appreciated.

Good ~ be positive!

You know after reading like the first few posts i started getting worried. but later it seems like your doing fine. Friendship stage you want to take the most advantage of. Thats where you build trust with your lady. I agree with PDM, we teenage guys can get alittle( who am i kidding with a alittle) nervous. I was too during my hunt for a girl. You say she may be doing track. Well encourage her to, that way you'll have something to talk about.
Speaking of talig about stuff, i have the same problem, too much stress and other stuff going through my mind, and not enough
good things to talk about. Look, heres some ideas.

1.Tell her about yourself, whats you strenghts, whats your weaknesses(may want to include her)

2.Ask her about herself, just don't go too deep if she has family issuses. They are not your concern.

3.Talk about school, graduation, where are yall going for college. this one is like, important. Depending whre ayll going for college, you may see each other for like 3 years or more(maybe on breaks). My girl is headed for Flordia to go to college, there nothing i can do about it.

4.You say you are built somewhat. OK here's don't tip. Don't tell her about how you got them. Some girls just seem to pretend about liking those type of conservations.

5.Talk bout what yall going to be doing in the next 5 days. Don't go beyond 2 weeks. trust me that screwed me up. Too many things in the agenda too know about.

6. Just talk about whatever you may think is best for yall to about.

Now if anybody has anything to change or add they will.

You say yall have classes together. Yell lets say yall got a project that you and her can work on together. Now here comes a real question. Do you cook? If so, make it a study date and you can provide dinner. if you don't cook. leave it to your mother, or whoever dose they cooking.

Now what kind of music do you listen to? I perfer havy rock, metal, but my girl friend like hip hop. two diff's i can get over. it's good to keep some music collection that she will like.

Oh well, just remeber, stay in the freidship for a while, see how well you two commuicate. I've been dating my girl now for 1 year and 12 days. So if you take my advice or not, you wouldn't hurt if you didn't. Just be yourself you'll do fine. And if she's not the one for you, there's plenty other girls. Don't stay focus for one girl. I've actuuly calucated how much money i wastedtrying to get a girlfriend, and it came over $200.
Be careful. Relationships must be taken lightly.

Good Luck.

Ok, we had pictures 2 days ago and she did her hair up where is was just... just... well you know what I mean. So, I turned around saying I noticed her haircut and I said it looked very nice. She said"Thank you" she seemed a bit surprised and she kinda blushed when she said that. After that, I couldn't think of anything else to say AGAIN. She was struggling with her homework ans so I helped her with it but I couldn't think of anything to start a conversation with. Any advice?

Se the problem is that,I, being a Mormon am not able to date till I am 16(but I am actually a great cook and I am pursuing a career a culinary chef). I am also only 13. Thank you for your advice though it will definitely help me.

I still want to get closer to her though.

Please Help.

If you are only 13 and can't date until you are 16, then the best you can hope for is an in-school boyfriend~girlfriend 'friendship'.

I would be a little concerned about a 'child' of mine dating under the age of 16 too ~ and we aren't Mormons. (My grandmother & great grandmother were for a while!)

Just carry on being friendly and interested ~ the rest is up to you now.

After I told her that I liked her hair, she has been kinda quiet. I can't think of anything to say because when I try that picture pops into my mind. Any suggestions?

PDM is right. I had no idea you were 13. In school relationship is good thing. thinking of things is getting over rated today. Just keep it simple. if you wanna do something outside, then just do something that wouldn't be considered a date. Like cleaning a park(i know it sounds kind of exetreme), play some sports with her, her friends and your buds as well. You would get to know her friends tat way, and she get a chance to get to know your friends. Getting close to her at such a early age, is very dangerous. Nice hair tip though. You should wait till your older like 16. keep it simple man. You'll do just fine.

Ask her what books she has read / what films she has seen or wants to see / what her interests are / what she watcjhes on TV / what she does after school or at weekends / whether she has brothers & sisters / whether she goes away on holidays ~ where? what's her favourite place? Does she enjoy photography? Does she play an instrument? Does she have penfriends? Does she enjoy languages / history / sport whatever? Does she go to the seaside much? Has she been on boats? Does she snorkel?

There are hundreds of conversations that you could have.

Think about yourself. What do you like to do? What don't you enjoy? Get started there.

How about: 'I really enjoy this lesson, what do you think?
Or: I'm doing sports after school, how about you?

But try to get conversation that doesn't involve just yes/no. For example: 'Do you like art lessons?' could give 'yes' or 'no'. 'What are your favourite lessons?' will give a bit more scope.

Thank you both of you two. I will try this tommorow and I hope we can become friends soon. Tommorow we have an after school activity night so I am hoping. Thank you so much I appreciate it so much.

All of the advice before me has been so good. Follow their's.
As a girl in my late teens and dealing with much "boy drama" I know that my friends and I all hate it when we try to talk to a guy and all they say back is: yes, no, or "haha." So conversation is a definite. Establish some inside jokes, which could be a good reason to stop her in the hall and chat about it, you saw something that reminded you "of that one time in math." I love love love it when guys tell funny stories about their family- though it may not seem so funny to you, us girls love to hear about it. It may get her to open up about her family, which is very good. Just don't be clingy, give her her space. Make her want more without seeming disinterested. Also, get on good terms with her girl friends. Those will be the people she goes to about her problems, and if she hears a "he's a nice guy" from her girls, she will be more open to getting closer.

Just remember to talk to her!

no prb man. jsut keep in touch.